an intruiging tell wrt Google's approach to ethics, in this Google statement. "He is a software engineer, not an ethicist". In other words, the engineer should not worry about ethics, they've got ethicists on the payroll for that. Worrying about ethics is not the engineer's job. That perception means you yourself can stop thinking about ethics, it’s been allocated, and you can just ta
From the Guardian link:
"Lemoine, an engineer for Google’s responsible AI organization"
So you have an AI organization and a *responsible* AI organization? 🤔
Some time ago I noticed that in some AI award ceremony, there was a (special) category:
"AI for good", which I read as "AI is evil by default" 🤔
@ton So the big issue as I see it isn't that they had a software engineer doing AI ethics, but that they had a credulous idiot doing AI ethics. Shows how seriously Google takes ethics.
@bob yeah, the case is irrelevant in my observation. It's that in their communications they let slip their ethics work is blue washing, that is concerning. Which chimes with earlier data points and a few ethicists I have known within Google.
@ton Yes — always keep in mind that as software engineer you are the last line of defense. If you implement it, it is in the world. Your decision whether to build something or not decides how the world changes — however small that might seem.
The ethicist should have the job to be there so software engineers can ask questions: “what will happen if we do it this way” (and receive answers) — but not “is it OK to do it this way?”
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